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21 August 2004 @ 09:26 pm
Pokegirls explanation  
All right, since some of you Imed or commented to me about what the hell is Pokegirls. I will now give my long and short of it explanation of Pokegirls. I'll leave most things insinuated since I out right don't want to weird people out. But I hope most of you get the picture.

In the shortest way possible for my to explain Pokegirls, I say it is an entire genre of fanfiction that is devoted to female humanoid pokemon that need to be tamed by youthful young men (and some women).

Now for a more lengthy explanation on origins and general facts.

This genre was created back in the hey-day of the American Pokemon release. There were many versions of this style of writing. The origins were mostly furry fans that liked Pokemon and created RPs about humanoid pokemon. A popular name for these were "Pokemorphs" and many people had much fun drawing cute pokemon humans and RPing them or writing fics on them. There aren't that many that are still going, but you can find a few if you google it.



Of one of the furry nuts, a few started a "write what you think should happen" Pokewomon Addventure. http://www.bearchive.com/~addventure/game1/docs/047/47382.html that is the start of it all and is owed to the creation of The changeling who started an entire thread of "fuckable" pokemon. From this a few notable names in the lemon writing communities and RPers came and took notice.

One of the most well noted was Metroanime, also known as Tuxedo H, and regarded as Gregg by people that are old enough to remember his days of writing. Metroanime was a large Ranma 1/2 fan, and his thoughts of the addventure were, "Hey, I'd like to write this into my own story." This led to the creation of Wild Horses and Pokegirls, the story of Ranma getting his ass handed to him via a crossdimensional shift which sends the martial artist into a post-apocolyptic(*) world full of pokegirls. This fic was published on a variety of locations that accepted Lemon fanfiction.

People liked what they read and started looking at the addventure. Back then, there was only the addventure to establish new write ups of new girls, and they became hard to sort in the ever growing thread. So people decided to create a forum for the fans. This developed into the Pokewomon Delphi forums. The forums had lots of bugs, and the overall style was annoying, so people decided to move to the yahoo groups.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ThePokegirlWorld/

The new and central hub of the Pokegirl community was made, and since some people became lazy to log onto Yahoo, an even NEWER forum was made.But the new forum was found to be full of spyware and popads, so after a bout of about a year or so, everyone migrated back to Yahoo. Some still remain on the old forum, but they just dust off the place and then direct people to Yahoo.

As the fan base grew, more and more people took interest in writing fics for us. The famous Gorgo of the GA wrote for us, and unfortunately quuit out of harsh restrictions on his creativity. Hamster wrote for us, but after being found guilty of plagerism, he hasn't written anything. Persona whom is a writer in Argentina is also an old writer of ours. Others include teachers, college med and law students, hillbillies, and even the occasional angry Nintendo lawyer. So it's a diverse community to say the least. This brought out many different styles of writing, from angst, to comedy, all the way to PWP stories.

The diverse number of people brought discussions on economy in the simulated world, geography, psychological habits, politics in cities and countries, and the occasional rocket science of a satelite in orbit.

Course, now we got about 3 flamers, 1 missing mod, one mod phasing in and out, and a number of yes men thrown in the mix... Everyone else tends to lurk. So we usually argue over the same things over and over again now a days... I miss the good old days...



So now onto the actual world settings of how the world works.

The basic background story of the genre is that a mad scientist had created a race of killer monster girls to punish humanity for what it did to him. The war got out of hand, but the humans won by a very slim thread. Of the estimatable number of 5 billion humans, only 50 million, probably less remained alive in the world. The main story (Wild Horses and Pokegirl {WH&PG}) of the universe kicks in 300 years after the war.



First, what happenned 300 years before. In the late 1980s an arrogant college student devised an idea for trans dimentional travel. He thought the idea was pretty cool, course, not many people wanted to shove him money to realise his improbable dream. He still managed to scroung the money through industrial espionage and devised the portal. His name was Jim Sukebe. Yes, I know, his name means pervert.

The portal led him to worlds that were obviously much more advanced than his own. He came back to earth with inventions that he down graded and sold off for profit. He made lots of money, and he became a reknowned scientist.

Of course, with fame, the press followed him. A reporter by the name of Linda Mckenzie infiltrates one of his Mansion/labs to get an inside scoop on the life of Sukebe.

The reporter had no idea that Sukebe had created his own servants with the alien technology. He, being a man of 20 or so was of course in his prime, and what any primed genius would do, he created FEMALE servants. He used the DNA of animals and created his own private servants and security to protect and take care of his well being.

The first generation of girls were not designed for search and destroy, or patrolling. They were human with exotic features at best, and thus they had no chance to stop and capture Linda for stealing research and snapping photos of the girls.

Once the photos and research was released, the media went mad. They labled Sukebe as a mad misogynist. He was shunned by humanity, and the police was ordered to take him into custody for crimes against humanity. Sukebe excapes by a few hairs, but with the expense of his beloved original creations. The loss of his loving family he created caused him to go mad.

Within a year, Sukebe had erected his first army. With a variation of 15 or so girls that were based on the first generation. This generation were the first true pokegirls with the biology and needs of one. These lab grown girls were sent around to create their own strong holds and bases around the US at first. They attacked people with guerrilla tactics starting around 1991. The attacks were to drag in new "recruits" for the army. Men were of no use and killed while women and girls were forced into submission and then genetically altered to fight for the monsters.

In 1992, the full scale war begins. A massive legendary girl by the name of Typhonna attacks Africa and consequently sinks much of Africa that was on the equator. The guerrilla style tactics turn for a more bloodier and more frequent attack pattern. The governments around the world recognizes this as a world-wide threat that must be stopped at all costs.

In 1993 a sickness hits and further incapacitates the world. The world wide epidemic seemed to be just like a case of the flu; however, after more thorough evidence was released, a new horror was realized. The flu devastated the women's ovaries and made them thus, infertile. This made reproduction VERY hard. The human race was on the verge of collapse even if they win against the monster girls.

The overall use of Nuclear weapons proved to be useless. The legendary girls were too strong to be taken out by the blasts, and anymore nuclear explosions threatened a nuclear winter. This combined with the fact there was no cure to the flu made many people start to distrust the modern sciences that had helped them along. The lack of help and further screwings they recieved from them led to a massive boycott of technology and anarchy commenced.

However, in 1996 a Canadian soldier rescued a monster girl that was injured in hopes of learning something from it. The two put together in a small cabin led to the discovery of taming techniques. The new way to subdue girls and turn their loyalty against their masters led to a quick spin on who held power in the war. The humans started to take the monsters and turned them against their former comrades.

Combined with Typhonna disappearing for reasons unknown, and certain pokegirl tribes raising the white flag in exchange for safety, the humans were on their way to victory. Finally, in 2002,with one bloody and massive Lord of the Rings like battle in the San Fransisco Bay Area to the central valley, the major showdown came in a D-day like invasion. This time however, the humans invaded from the coast. They secured the bay and proceeded to pinpoint the location of Sukebe. Once pinpointed, a nuke was launched, and Sukebe is presumed dead after such a blast.

What followed was a slow climb up humanity as civilization had been pretty much decimated. Dangerous legendaries either retreated to disappear off the map, or where slowly defeated one by one by the now building forces of the army.

The war had taken a major toll on human civilizations though, and many changes occured. Most international trade and communication had been destroyed. This led to most countries or even cities and villages to become their very own country and fend for themselves. Where government still had a grasp on the people, the new territories were no longer called countries but leagues. The leagues were created from a council in the now defunct UN that used to handle the war efforts.

The biggest change was the acknowledgement that pokegirls were needed as a means for survival. Though regular taming with a pokegirl produced no byproduct besides undying loyalty, a second puberty was underwent by pokegirls at about 30 years of age to turn them into Pokewomon. As a pokewomon, a taming may cause pregnancy. It was further discovered that these pregnancies led to the birth of humans AND pokegirls.

With restored hope, a baby boom of pokegirls came into being as human males and females were born into pokegirl families. People thought that the human race was yet to be saved.

This of course was all before the discovery of threshold. In 2081, or by then 79 After Sukebe (AS), a young human girl by the name of Olga Stanner experienced a painful metamorphosis over the period of a week or so. She became a catgirl, and later died in an attempt to cure herself of the disease. After that, more cases arose, regular human girls with pokegirl lineage started to undergo threshold at the age of puberty.

This was the beginning of a majorly opressed hiarchy of humans and pokegirls.

Pokegirls sat at the bottom are feral and live in the wild, they are also the useless or dangerous ones were regarded as inhuman, such girls like Snorlasses, Buzzbreasts, and Widows were either not very popular, usefull, or otherwise a menace to the well being of humans and pokegirls alike. Then abve that were the workers that could use their skills in industry or public service, this included Nurse Joys, Officer Jennys, and Magmary who all had skills that could be used as public servants or slaves in industrial jobs like smelting, sewing, and others. Above the work horses were common or popular pets kept by people who wanted a companion, the most common can be taken as Growlies, Kittens, and Boobsaur who are not overly hogs for attention, but make a good pet and companion for a cozy home, or a welcoming face in a restaurant or shop. But most of all, the most accepted in general are the domesticated girls that have intelligence and are most likely of threshold origin.

Then the humans. Humans with pokegirl attributes known as blood gifts and blood curses were a step above pokegirls but not that far off. Some with surprisingly strong talents of ESP or skill ascended to become famous people in the society as slayers or adventurers. These blood gifts range from affinities to certain types (making them well liked by pokegirls of a certain type), all the way to being able to mimic some attacks of a pokegirl (i.e. breath fire, secrete poison, teleport).

Next up are the general mixed blood girls and boys who are still human. These are the average Joes and Janes that live in the world. These are the average tamers in the world.

Tamers are adventurers that go out into the world to capture and tame feral pokegirls to keep population in check, and some may even act as mercinaries or errand runners for locals as they travel. They are encouraged to catch more girls and tame them for a tamer rating and the training to enter tournaments. Most are young males of 18-30 at most. After the youthful years, most sell or donate their girls to a ranch to be given to new tamers, or are kept around as family. It is common for tamers to marry their alpha girls as a wife and raise a family with them.

At the top is the pure blooded humans. They are the few that remain with no pokegirl blood, or mixed but at a VERY small percentage with no trace of pokegirl ancestory for generations. These are the people that sit in suits and consider pokegirls as horrendous monsters. They hold power to the leagues and control the world from behind the black screen.

This setting gave way to revolutions by the pokegirls that were much like a whole nother fight for women's rights, racial equality, and homosexualrallying all rolled into one. Some strong caring people pushed forward for equal rights, while others still considered pokegirls as sources of labor rather than anything.

The fight seemed to have been going well. Police kept a stiff eye on protesters, but they made peaceful progress. Some smaller community like areas had abolished most social barriers and lived in equality. Trust was higher amongst themselves until 248 AS when Mao Shin Mao starts a rebellion of pokegirls. These girls on an insane march started another war between humans and pokegirls. The war was costly in both lives and trust. Even after Mao's defeat, several groups branched out to keep fighting, and the general public views of pokegirls once again became lowered. A slow recovery has been continuing since.

That would be the basic history of the world



As a final spurt, I will name needed to be noted terms and explanations.

Tamers first get their Pokegirls from a ranch. These ranches are run by indivisual owners with a breeder license. They sell girls to tamers and pet owners alike. Most girls on a ranch act like they are in a collective. They share the work of living and supporting themselves there and keep each other tame.

There are three types of license. The smallest is a pet license which only requires a small test to know of general care. With a pet license, up to 3 girls can be kept. A breeder license is a license with no limit to the number of girls a person may own. However, they must pass a rigourous test and must agree to the terms of selling the girls they raise to tamers or pet owners when needed. Finally a tamer license is needed for 6 girls and additional tests are required for extra storage space to exceed 6. THe difficulty of the tamer's test is disputed as acutally being a test or not. Most questions are basic knowledge and only a complete idiot would fail the written portion. The catch to all the tests, however, is the fact that a psychic type scans the minds of the test takers to make sure they won't be threat through their mental health.

There are gyms spread out throughout the world, and most are there to help train tamers in their journy. The gym leader is usually a retired tamer that applied for a breeder license and then built a gym to generate some extra income. The gym leaders recieve a salary from the league to keep each league run gym running, local gyms are usually supported by the people who attend it by the means of odd jobs.

After the general abandonment of technology, a slow come back has occured. People devised more nature friendly transport such as a clean natural gas hover car, and balloon ships. Most harmful and or dirty technology is either considered lostech, or forbidden tech.

Finally, this is my rendition. I'm a mod, but there are other people that would argue some of what I say here. So don't come and complain to me when you find out something's incorrect.

Signed
The Sax
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(Anonymous) on August 21st, 2004 10:21 pm (UTC)
Interesting
Well done, and very informative. I've always kinda wondered what pokegirls were(other than the obvious, "Well, they're probably pokemon-women hybrids). I do like the way you described the history. For those of us who haven't a clue, it was fairly easy to understand the backround story. Great job, overall. ^_^ Sorry I can't give you much in the way of criticism this time (my limited knowledge on the subject makes it kinda hard).

~ Diana
Professor Emiliza: [lizzyrd] very evil duck[info]emiliza on August 22nd, 2004 11:26 am (UTC)
Oh god... Wow man..
Steampunk Porcupine: its a secret[info]kittyblackrose on August 23rd, 2004 12:23 pm (UTC)
*cries* too long. I'll read that later, when I DONT have a 5 minute limit... which Ive already exceeded....
fuck you, internet porn will save the world[info]impactbomb on August 25th, 2004 07:34 am (UTC)
Uhm, wow.
Found you through the Sore Thumbs blog . . .

That's genuinely frightening to behold. However, it does sound like a neat universe to muck around in. Thanks for the writeup, even if it makes me fear for men's souls.
Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on August 25th, 2004 08:26 am (UTC)
Re: Uhm, wow.
haha, you're quite welcome. I was rather shocked that such a thing would come up on Sorethumbs.
(Anonymous) on August 25th, 2004 08:54 am (UTC)
Re: Uhm, wow.
Well, the internet is full of idiots and it doesn't take long for one to run into another...
(Anonymous) on August 25th, 2004 12:19 pm (UTC)
Re: Uhm, wow.
And you obviously go to both, so that makes you... what?

Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on August 25th, 2004 05:21 pm (UTC)
Re: Uhm, wow.
a somewhat intellegent idiot trying to make a name for himself?
(Anonymous) on August 27th, 2004 08:56 am (UTC)
Re: Uhm, wow.
An anonymous name? C'mon now. Don't be foolish.
planetouched[info]planetouched on August 25th, 2004 05:30 pm (UTC)
very interesting. seems like a fun univeres to rp. is it full of pervs?
Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on August 25th, 2004 09:21 pm (UTC)
well I think it's insinuated enough to guess what taming is....
Kisc Kempson[info]kisc on August 25th, 2004 09:58 pm (UTC)
Random silly question, because I don't have any real interest in the universe...

does ... uh ... size and or skill play a part in who you can tame?
Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on August 26th, 2004 01:00 am (UTC)
I suppose so
(Anonymous) on August 26th, 2004 12:16 pm (UTC)
Just thought to say..
Being a member of the Pokegirl Group, I just thought to say much props to The Sax for posting this document and to those out there who have the overwhelming urge to hate and get nasty, I would ask you to at least keep an open mind for two seconds.

Contrary to what you may think, most of us at the Pokegirl Group are fairly well-adjusted people who are all over the age of 18(in my case, I'm 24) who just like to have fun, just like the next guy. We're not sicko's or pervs tryin' to warp your fragile little minds with our so called "smut". Personally, if you're not a fan, don't want to be one, then we'd be more than happy to see you move on. We're just a bunch of people using our combined talents to bring to life a world of our choosing.

There are several authors at the yahoo groups page who I think could go toe to toe with any author in the fantasy and science fiction genres, and though they do their work mainly for themselves, I eagerly await every section of a series they put out.

To close, I ask those who have the urge the hate to not do so, to give us a chance before you try. Who knows, you might actually come to like what the people at Pokegirl have created.
planetouched[info]planetouched on August 26th, 2004 07:41 pm (UTC)
Re: Just thought to say..
yay! ok i gess ill try it as long as it isnt just a bunch of lemons.
Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on August 26th, 2004 09:28 pm (UTC)
Re: Just thought to say..
It sorta is in a sense. You just don't find PWP stories in their. You would more likely find something that is character driven with lots of sex.

There are writers that just don't want to write lemons too, so they don't contain sex. Look around and see what you find is good or not.
(Anonymous) on August 26th, 2004 08:54 pm (UTC)
Re: Just thought to say..
I ran across the poke-girl stories a long time ago (I too came across this from sore thumbs) and thought it was very good. Sure it was a lemon but hell thats what I was looking for at the time. Porn for someone with imagination as I see it. But anyways Nice intro to the series.
(Anonymous) on August 27th, 2004 08:18 pm (UTC)
Re: Just thought to say..
w00t... Now who's dissing on Sorethumbs, or this? :P
Jules[info]russian_mafia on August 30th, 2004 10:08 am (UTC)
I think it's rather amusing how a webcomic is bringing more attention to this inane write-up of yours than you could've ever hoped your sick, twisted, and morally incorrect fanfic genre would get.

I happen to be female, and a Sore Thumbs reader as well.
Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on August 30th, 2004 11:04 am (UTC)
Well in a sense, it is the truth. This is more attention than I though. However, I never really thought this would be used as anything to draw attention to. I just told Chris about the genre because I thought it should just be mentioned.

I do, however feel obligated to defend this point. Though sick and probably the worst nightmare to humanity, I wouldn't go as far as to call this write up inane. I see a great deal of substance that fleshes this fictional world into something that actually works and breaths. I understand that such a world may be a dark ages for humans and be considered misogynistic to most women, but the world goes beyond that. Though most fics contain raunchy uncontrolled sex, there are some that combine them with varied genres. There are romances all the way to a sort of a political thriller in a screwed up sense.

This genre may be about monster women that crave sex, but it's also story about how all living things can be thought of as equal, and should not be lowered or raised depending on what they look like or how they act.
(Anonymous) on August 31st, 2004 08:54 pm (UTC)
Well Said, chiaki777.

The amount of depth (albeit parts of it very, very silly) going into the history of this genre's world seems anything but 'inane'.

While the core concept is about what most consider sexual deviance, it still deserves credit as an elegant, cohesive framework built around that core.

I might look into this someday. It sounds interesting enough, and I must admit that I've had worse thoughts about a pokemon story involving a female tamer and her... VERY loyal pokemon. Ahem.
(Anonymous) on September 3rd, 2004 10:10 pm (UTC)
Zork Troll
It is dark. You Are Likely To Be Eaten by a Troll.
Kalatash[info]kalatash on August 30th, 2004 05:44 pm (UTC)
Another SORETHUMBS linker.
I will admit, I only have read the first half, third, fourth, or "whatever"th of your post since I don't have the time to finish it at this moment, but I do have one thing to say.

I had no idea such a world existed.

Sure, I have known of the concept of 'pokegirls', or more accurately 'pokemorphs', for a while now, but this is the first time I have ever heard of a world devoted to the idea. I just thought it was a bunch of different people who probably think too much deciding to draw a random pikagirl, some of which are very cute. But still, an actual developed world?

[Keanu Reeves] Whoa. O_o [/Keanu Reeves]
Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on August 30th, 2004 05:46 pm (UTC)
Re: Another SORETHUMBS linker.
Yeah, but we're about the only ones still developing new ideas, most have split now.
Kalatash[info]kalatash on September 1st, 2004 02:33 pm (UTC)
Re: Another SORETHUMBS linker.
Well, I guess that is to be expected. Though I am surpised that ANYONE is still working in this, frankly.

I do have to agree with one of the Anonymous posters that I am deeply impressed with how... cohesive the entire thing is. Heck, maybe I'll eventually joint hte Yahoo group and add my own ideas to the mix.
Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on September 1st, 2004 05:37 pm (UTC)
Re: Another SORETHUMBS linker.
yes, you are quite welcome to. Though it's currently in the midst of a civil war.... Nothing too serious, the details are in my more recent entries if any are curious. I'm sure this will pass in a few days.
Kalatash[info]kalatash on September 2nd, 2004 10:12 am (UTC)
Re: Another SORETHUMBS linker.
Yes, I see... perhaps waiting a week might be a good idea, then. ^_^;;
(Anonymous) on September 1st, 2004 03:39 am (UTC)
Amazing.
It was Jim's fault! I can't believe it! wwweasel started it.

I'm a relative newb to the BEAddventure (since Jan only) but its a great way to work off a writing bug. That said I've never actually read a pokegirl thread.
Stacy Smith: FLCL[info]qfyd on September 2nd, 2004 04:40 am (UTC)
Kinda makes sense....
I found this site through a totally random link on a webcomic and I gotta say, although this back history seems rather contorted, it does sort of fit the actual Pokémon universe extremely well in one subtle way:
All the nurses and police officers look EXACTLY THE SAME in Pokémon cartoons....
Maybe the creators had this little subplot in mind all along and they slipped in tiny hints, although they weren't actually allowed to say it plainly.
Yubi Shines[info]starspiritgate on September 2nd, 2004 12:36 pm (UTC)
Wow. Even if the Pokegirl IS used as an excuse to write furry lemons, it looks really well-developed. I haven't come across any Pokegirl yarns before, though that's probably because I'm not a big fan of Pokemon and wouldn't normally visit websites with that content. This looks interesting, though...
Luke Carter[info]naryzhud on September 2nd, 2004 05:37 pm (UTC)
You can guess where i linked from...
That's... impressive to say the least. Thanks for the informative write-up, i had no idea this all existed. I'm astonished at the amount of depth put into it, even if it is fairly twisted.
Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on September 2nd, 2004 05:40 pm (UTC)
Re: You can guess where i linked from...
Yeah, when you obsess, it gets big, even if it's odd.
(Anonymous) on September 3rd, 2004 04:56 am (UTC)
lol pwn
Pokegirls were invented so Nintendo could get in on the Furry/Hentai market, sick fuckers.
Life's Bonus Stage: Against the Wind[info]lifeinreview on September 3rd, 2004 10:12 am (UTC)
Pokegirl fans = extremist furries looking to add yet more justification to their twisted sexual desires.

There is no justification - your people are a sick and twisted one, if you genuinely get your knockers off reading/viewing this stuff. Even if you're merely a writer/artist of said content... you need one hell of a sick mind to even want to portray such unnatural acts.

LOOK AT ME MA I'M AN ATHEIST PORTRAYING CHRISTIAN EXTREMIST BELIEFS! WOO CONTROVERSIAL CONTRADICTION WOO!

I only wrote that because I know you extremists always disregard opposition without consideration anyway.
Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on September 3rd, 2004 04:37 pm (UTC)
Well, you are quite welcome to believe we're a bunch of sick people that should be locked up in some institution. You are quite entitled to your opinions.
(Anonymous) on September 3rd, 2004 10:08 pm (UTC)
Troll!
It is dark.
You are likely to be attacked by a troll.
Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on September 3rd, 2004 10:15 pm (UTC)
Re: Troll!
Now now, I know full well what they are, I have no care at what they really say. So let's just let them go on as they wish. I could use a laugh once in a while.
(Anonymous) on September 9th, 2004 07:45 pm (UTC)
Hey now, be nice. I'll be honest, I can't really understand or sympathize with furries myself, and am even horrified by some types. But at the same time, the Pokegirls seem really to be a very innocuous form of furry; it's not like they're hurting anything or anybody, breaking any laws, etc... There are furries who want real animals (and I'm not trying to offend anybody here, though I'm sure I will, so sorry), and when you realize that, you realize just how utterly harmless and non-extremist Pokegirl fans are.

And I say this as a non-furry AND Pokemon fan.
(Anonymous) on September 6th, 2004 06:53 pm (UTC)
Wow! Very interesting!
I know some people believe any kind of sexual writings to be copletely inappropriate, but I find great joy in reading such works as long as they are well developed. Something like this is a whole lot different and better than some of those very badly spelled short stories of blatant sex with very poor grammar. Plus I'm a hotblooded young male, so something like this certainly intrigues me. ;) I have never been very much into the furry genre, but i never really gave it that much of a try (though I do have a few impressive furry pics ;) ). This is definitely a very interesting universe to build on!
Christine Vivier[info]psycho_rayne on September 8th, 2004 12:43 am (UTC)
^_^ You just made my day. This is awesome.
Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on September 8th, 2004 05:45 pm (UTC)
glad that I can be of service.
(Anonymous) on September 11th, 2004 07:20 pm (UTC)
Now to make everything fair...
Are there Pokeboys and Pokemen? Without the male version of the anthromorphic Pokemon, it does seem misogynistic. If both males and females existed of these Pokepeople, or if the Pokepeople were hermaphrodites, that would fix the problems with the story's obvious superiority towards men.
Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on September 11th, 2004 08:03 pm (UTC)
Re: Now to make everything fair...
Well, this is a touchy matter at best. Not the most talked about, but when it is brought up, it get's messy.

I myself side with no Pokeboys since there are traits called blood curses called the Pokeboy genes. There are certain people that inherit the cat ears or fangs, but never become a full pokeboy. There were instances where some people wanted to push for so many blood curses and gifts that the guy looked and seemed just like a male pokegirl. In these instances people were split on the idea and generally the vote turned out as, that many gifts and curses would end one's life fast or make them have many problems (since the more Blood gifts that were there or the more rare, the worse the curses came {like short lives, stupidity, whatever.} ). We ended up shooting the idea down.

There was, however, an instance where Gorgo wrote in genetically altered testube babies that were pokeboys...they were rather an interesting idea... but generally disliked when the thought of "taming" pokeboys came to mind. (man and man sex disturbed a few people...) The fact that Gorgo's fic was apparently a big munchkin, mary sue fic, and well, that shot down anything that was in that fic. (I personally liked his fic)

Then there is another version where Metro Anime wrote where it was ACTUALLY Pokeboys. A hellish spinoff where men were enslaved by women. Yeah... it was an interesting read... Nothing like the pokegirl world. But it was there for the sake of saying. "Here the men's version is much worse than girl's, so don't complain."

Then now that things have slightly changed from before, we have a few new members. They want Pokeboys, and went as far as to attempt to make their own yahoo group. I have yet to see anything from them besides the main idea. But there are a few.

The main idea of pokegirls came from anime. However, the genre also appeals to the furry culture. Thus we have a good number of people that enjoy "yiffing." And if people know my stance on Furrys, it's essentially "Yeah, you guys do that, I just won't do it." and Pokegirls is a sort of no no in most of the mod's tastes.

There is also one major factor that would kill pokegirls if pokeboys came to be. Humans are just that, human. They can't go soaring into the skies, and they can't create large blasts of fireballs. If pokegirls and pokeboys could tame each other (which they can, because feral girls are the only type that pokegirls can't tame, if the girl starts tame from the start, a pokegirl can tame each other to keep sane.) Thus pokeboys would create a revolution of enslaving humanity. And even if that suceeds, girls and boys can go feral, and if humans are gone, who'll tame them in that off chance?

So then, a new revolution started. LET'S MAKE THEM ALL POKEGIRLS AND POKEBOYS! The question of taming was shot down by: "They don't need it anymore!" This of course goes against EVERYTHING that was about the genre. So as aforementioned, people started talk of another forum for themselves.

The matter of fact is. Pokegirls may be considered sexist or misogynistic, but there is a system of checks and balances in itself. When the war ended, most women were infertile, so the only way to procreate was with pokegirls. This insured survival for the human race.

Despite the enslavement, Pokegirls that are tame can live more or less as regular humans in some places, and others are pushing for more rights. It's like Huckfinn. It has a tone that speaks of black slaves as a negative, but in the end, it's VERY against slavery, and is a great satire of the people in the US in the South. Much like so, despite pokegirls being about girls that get enslaved through tamings, you find that most of the girls in the stories are strong or learn to get their own freedom and find love in someway or another.

It's also a fact that pokegirls are MUCH stronger than humans. So it's not all that bad. I mean some have hyper beams that shoot out of their hands to create fun destruction. If they were left unchecked, it won't be pretty. So essentially, it all works out with checks and balances.
(Anonymous) on September 29th, 2004 10:57 am (UTC)
Re: Now to make everything fair...
Wow....wow....I must say, you guys truly have created a Pokegirl UNIVERSE. It's not just some stories about poke-sex, you have gone all out. This is like on the same order of magnitude as those people who play D&D live and dressed up. Well, kudos to you for creating something in a world so full of destruction.

Eric
http://blog.ericsbinaryworld.com
Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on September 29th, 2004 05:28 pm (UTC)
Re: Now to make everything fair...
Thank you for the kudos ^_^
[info]tirachan75 on October 1st, 2004 09:15 am (UTC)
More common than you think....
You know, i have seen people cosplay similar things at cons. a pimp's suit with Ash's colors, and the hat with the wierd symbol on it a pimp's hat instead....as well as a Pika-girl. People just have to be understanding....if you are not into it, then move on....the good old don't rub it in my face and i won't rant in yours....although, now, honestly, i have to ask a question, chiaki. has there ever been a pic written from the Pokegirl's POV? (entertaining yummy thoughts of writing one like that...^^; )
Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on October 1st, 2004 09:28 am (UTC)
Re: More common than you think....
I've written a few, and a few more authors did, some people actually RPed them, and it was al fun.
Debu-chan[info]debu_chan on October 4th, 2004 09:56 am (UTC)
There is also poke-girl hentai art. ^_^ My ex-b/f had started a newsgroup called alt.games.nintendo.pokemon.hentai specifically so people could trade the art and stories. Of course, all types of poke-porn got posted. I saved the really lovely pics of Jessie, because Team Rocket rocks, and she had simply lovely character design.

^__^ I'm surprised that not everyone knew about this stuff. Even Nintendo knew about it. They had a friend of mine shut down his archive site for AGNPH. Bah... Damn uptight jerks... He wasn't making money off it. It was just stupid fanart. It had a warning page and everything.
Chiaki[info]chiaki777 on October 4th, 2004 03:57 pm (UTC)
Oh yes, We've had our run ins with Nintendo.... We've recieved their threatening e-mails. We ALMOST went to court. Luckily we fended them off with overwhelming evidence that we weren't making money, and that Nintendo wasn't being completely ripped.... Ahh I hate lawyers....
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